I have a '08 Heritage FLSTC that I purchased about a month ago. I have ridden a lot of harley's in the past with smaller engines and thought boy this 96 CI is going to be great. Man was I let down. It was slugish, ran hot and had to run 93 Octane fuel or it would predetonate. Two weeks ago I purchased the SUPER TUNER and have been tweeking it since.
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Man you can change everyting about the motor with this thing. I started by using 87 Octane fuel. Should not have to run high octane fuel with 9 to 1 compression but harley had to do this so they coud tune it for emissions standards.
Upped the accell enrichment (which is like the accelerator pump on a carburator)That made a huge difference it is 10 times as responsive now. Then began the road tests and tweeking. These bikes are equiped with spark knock sensor that retard timing when it senses predetonation.
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When I record a run with the tuner (very cool function of the tuner) it will show how much spark knock retard it had to use to prevent predetonation then I can either richen the air/fuel ratio or retard timing from there. I did highway normal driving to WIDE OPEN THROTTLE runs. Man what a difference. This thing definitely is using all 96 cubes now. Wide open throttle is kind of scary now. And runs a lot cooler now.
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Once I got use to all the very inpressive functions this thing had it was a snap to use. If any one would like a copy of my tune I can shoot it to them. JETDOCTOR, Is this from Harley or is it aftermarket?
I have a 07 Screamin Eagle Road King with the 110 c.i., Running a PCIII a little on the rich side to cool it down some. Dealer is tring to talk me into doing away with the PCII and going with SE race tuner. I wonder if the one u have is just for the 08's have been told that PC and previous Race Tuners do not work well with the 08's. The cruise control went out on my bike last month and dealer can't seem to find out what is wrong with it, so they are tring to blame it on the power commander, sometimes the cruise works and some time it won't. DKIN Live Easy, Ride Hard. Not sure on these 08's.
If i where in your situation i'd just wait and watch. See what they come up with. Could end uo saving you some money.
One things for sure the steeler should know but always seems to know the least when it comes to tuning a HD. PC will come up with something we can do ourself. Or maybe the up and coming thundermax. HD seems to be always trying to make it impossible to do anything but go through them and their products. But thank god they typically fail hang in there:cheers. JETDOCTOR, Is this from Harley or is it aftermarket?
I have a 07 Screamin Eagle Road King with the 110 c.i., Running a PCIII a little on the rich side to cool it down some. Dealer is tring to talk me into doing away with the PCII and going with SE race tuner. I wonder if the one u have is just for the 08's have been told that PC and previous Race Tuners do not work well with the 08's. The cruise control went out on my bike last month and dealer can't seem to find out what is wrong with it, so they are tring to blame it on the power commander, sometimes the cruise works and some time it won't. DKIN Live Easy, Ride Hard. Click to expand.Yes it is made by HD and it will work on all the Fuel injected motors but really takes advantage of the O2 controlled motors (06 Dyna and up and All other models 07 and up).
The cool thing about the SE super tuner is you don't have to deal with dealer anymore which seams to know very little about tuning. With the SE super tuner you put it in real life driving situations record it them make changes from there. Unlike the dealer with a dyno. From what I understand about the Power commander is it replaces the stock ecu so if you put the stock ecu back on and program it yourself with the SE super tuner then the dealer can't blame the faulty cruise control on your Power commander. SE Pro Efi Super Tuner Part no 32109-08 I read your thread and it very much interested me. I ordered a Super Tuner thinking it would come with some instruction. To say the least I was disappointed.
I am an accomplished ASE Master Tech. So the concepts are quite familiar as to how the fuel injection works on these bikes. I made the assumption I could probably do most of this tuning myself and install a preset map that fairly well matched my bike. I have an 08 Street Glide that is stock except for Rush slip-ons and the SE Air cleaner.
It runs extremely hot and is sluggish to say the least. I had a 03 Heritage with EFI, 95 cid and HD 204 cams that would eat this Glide for breakfast. I have heard the Super Tuner really wakes these bikes up if set up right. If you could provide some help with info on installation, setup, cables used, mounting, downloading pre-set maps or anything else it would be of great help. Harley as usual, never wants you to do have enough info. They just want your money and want their techs to do all the work.
I read your thread and it very much interested me. I ordered a Super Tuner thinking it would come with some instruction. To say the least I was disappointed. I am an accomplished ASE Master Tech. So the concepts are quite familiar as to how the fuel injection works on these bikes. I made the assumption I could probably do most of this tuning myself and install a preset map that fairly well matched my bike.
I have an 08 Street Glide that is stock except for Rush slip-ons and the SE Air cleaner. It runs extremely hot and is sluggish to say the least. I had a 03 Heritage with EFI, 95 cid and HD 204 cams that would eat this Glide for breakfast. I have heard the Super Tuner really wakes these bikes up if set up right. If you could provide some help with info on installation, setup, cables used, mounting, downloading pre-set maps or anything else it would be of great help. Harley as usual, never wants you to do have enough info.
They just want your money and want their techs to do all the work. Click to expand.Yip, The instruction manual is lacking to say the least or is non-existent. All it provides you is basic EFI operation. All the tuning functions in the super tuner program are hidden and have no explanation as to what their use is. I think HD did this purposely to force you to take the bike to the dealer for a $2000 dyno run and a tune that probably will not run good anyway.
When I bought the tuner at the dealer they told me I would have to bring it to them to tune it. I DON'T THINK SO. I have an almost identical setup as you, Rush slip ons and Arlen Ness Big Sucker Air Cleaner. I can send you a copy of the tune I have on my bike by E-Mail. I will PM you my E-Mail and phone # so you can give me a hollar and I can show you where the tuning part of the program is. When I get time I will make a write up of where the tuning functions are and what they are.
Click to expand.I agree with you on the Thundermax + Autotune, except they only make it for models up to 2007. They haven't released one for the newer 08's with throttle by wire (TBW) yet. Besides the TBW which changes how the Thundermax must determine throttle position, the space under the seat on touring models is now gone so mounting becomes another change they need to consider. They have been promising a Thundermax for the 08 for months now but still haven't released anything. For those unfamiliar with the Thundermax w/Autotune, it uses wideband O2 sensors in place of the narrow band sensors (switches) which allows this system to automatically tune on the fly based on actual readings from the exhaust. Those who have this system on earlier models love them!
I would dump my race tuner in a heartbeat once they come out with a Thundermax for my 08. BTW, I've written the Thundermax people several times and they don't respond. Too bad their service isn't as good as their products.
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